Topic: Discussion Thread

[Hex]

Who said there has to be some strange bulge? My dog has a microchip imbedded in him and there is no way to tell just looking at him.

If you want to debate this strictly from a realistic standpoint even with the usage of nanobots, it would make far more sense to use a syringe to inject said nanobots than have them be mind reading nanobots that the dominant male is going to be able to command and go out on whim.

Personally I find physically going through the motions of sticking something to someone and branding them to be far more possessive than a smooch.

[The92Ghost]

Who said there has to be some strange bulge? My dog has a microchip imbedded in him and there is no way to tell just looking at him.

If you want to debate this strictly from a realistic standpoint even with the usage of nanobots, it would make far more sense to use a syringe to inject said nanobots than have them be mind reading nanobots that the dominant male is going to be able to command and go out on whim.

Personally I find physically going through the motions of sticking something to someone and branding them to be far more possessive than a smooch.

The mind reading thing was just a suggestion, we can always add something a wrist watch through where you can control the nanobots, but not completely, but just simple functions like when is just for pleasure and when it's a real claiming... -.- or we can go at the beginning without the nanobots, but when the claiming will be happening, the dominant to be injected... there is so many other ways. And who said anything about smooch, the nanobots create a mark on the submissive and the dominant, showing that they are together...

[Hex]

Well Gaslight already ruled out them being transmitted through sperm so saliva through the mouth was the only other way I've seen being offered up as a way to transmit them in a 'sexual fashion.'

At this point I'm starting to feel it would just be simpler to go back to good old fashion hot iron for the branding. Painful, permanent, and a great way to share with the world what belongs to you.

[The92Ghost]

Well Gaslight already ruled out them being transmitted through sperm so saliva through the mouth was the only other way I've seen being offered up as a way to transmit them in a 'sexual fashion.'

At this point I'm starting to feel it would just be simpler to go back to good old fashion hot iron for the branding. Painful, permanent, and a great way to share with the world what belongs to you.

THat would be rather painful and if the dominant really likes that submissive he won't feel good about hurting him on their first private moment (note I said private, not sexual), because they have to burn them with a hot iron, what are they in the stone age? Isn't this RP suppose to happen in the future or in AU which is around the same time as our World...

[Sexi-Kitten]

Since your character is a prideful Submission type character, Sammuel, he can hate the fact that he is being branded. Despise it. However, being titled as a Submissive Male is already a huge shame in their society. The Government does not care about what the Submissive Males think nor feel about this transaction. I think being that your character hates this is happening to him will put a lot of conflict into your character's story line and in turn the rest of the rp. Its what makes an interesting story line. The Dominate Male that goes after your character is going to have to show a lot of desire and that he is worthy of your character's loyalty or will have to work his damn hardest to pin him down and take him anyway. If he does get marked by force then why not plot against your Dominate? Find another of his choosing and get him to kill your current Dominant. There are many things that can add to your character's plot line with a simple branding and the fact that your Character dislikes the idea.

Seeing as the group is going for more of the branding... I say we go with it O.o the spine one >_>' I think your character will be a great dramatic addition with this idea.

[Hex]

Apparently they are closer to the stone age than they would like to admit because they are sending males to kill and claim one another in a barbaric battle royal. Pain is very often used in rites of passage. Also, even in today's society people do choose to use hot iron to brand exactly because of how it hurts and the resulting mark. Originally I thought a iron branding was a lot closer to what Gaslight had in mind for the mark but then we started to get fancy with the tech and the ability for the mark to vanish if the dominant male dies, or to cause pain if one or the other is injured.

Kitten gets where I am going with this and why I find the physical force of applying a mark to make for a far more powerful scene.

[The92Ghost]

I still have my doubts that any of the dominant guys will like my guy xD He is too out of pace for the normal submissive guys... even if its with hot iron, I think when another dominant male wants to take already marked guy, and he gets irritated that his chosen submissive has already being marked, adds more to the drama... and unable to remove it (the mark)...

[Sexi-Kitten]

I was going for not a hot iron until like AFTER the game is over and there is a sure "winner". While the game is played there are only marked with an injected piercing. Like how you see a star in your ear lobe with a piercing only its placed in the back of the spine and the hook is what is injected into the body which holds the marking in place until the game is over of the Dominant who Claimed the Submissive dies and the hook unlatches the marking and therefore is able to be given a new mark. We can say the "hook" has already been injected pre-game and all the Dominant has to do is press his mark in which can look like a push pin with a symbol the size of the head of a small soup spoon. ^o.o^

[Twix]

I like the idea of traditional hot iron branding (actually that's the first thing that popped in my mind when someone mentioned the idea of branding). Yes, it would be painful for the Submissive, but that's the point. It strengthens the bond between the two and is the most brutal and possessive way a Dominant can claim a Submissive while also letting others see that the Submissive has been claimed. Because what isn't more romantic than searing initials into your lover's flesh?

But really, the pain is an important part. It's also permanent, adding to the possessive factor. A Submissive who truly does love and want to be with his Dominant can willingly be branded, while Submissives who are forced can be more resistant and reluctant (maybe causing uneasy tension within the pair).

[Hex]

Because what isn't more romantic than searing initials into your lover's flesh?

I really like the idea of it being permanent too, although I know some other's seem to prefer if it wasn't. The submissive men are considered throwaways in terms of society. I would think if their dominant partner died, many in this world would feel the submissive male's life might as well be considered forfeited since they are nothing but property to begin with. In theory another male could burn over the original mark and than put his directly below it, but there would still be this blatant stigma that the submissive once belonged to someone else.

[Sexi-Kitten]

Ugh... this debate is going for a very long time... Let's just pick one >.>' In the end, does it matter? Its the Government's ideal way of getting rid of these people. Who ever lives can have their Submissive have surgery or something to fix up the many burn marks he has so that only the one mark remains. The more marks the more wanted the Submissive is and the more likely he is to survive. Makes sense to me O_o'

As for submissive males who don't like the idea, they will end up hating the idea, but it's the Government who makes up the rules. Why not just refuse to be Claimed in such a way and be the first to speak out the idea of taking out the Government?

[Gaslight]

So after all that, people want to go back to the original idea of branding XD

Okay, this is a little messy. So far we've got two people for the nanobots (Samm and Kitten) and three for either the impant or branding (Gaslight, Hex, Twix). For the sake of ease, I'll make an executive decision and say we'll go with the branding since that was how I originally envisioned this anyway and doesn't involve any brainstorming with complicated stuffs @.@'.

And also the branding happens to both, not just the Sub. While the Sub does become property of the Dom, the Dom is also expected to remain loyal to his claimed Sub so the brand also serves the purpose of marking the Dom as claimed, so if the Dom tries something on with another Sub then they are both aware that they're disrespecting societal conventions. It's to make playing the field harder for a Dom. Also, while its a symbol of ownership for the Sub, it's a coming of age symbol for the Doms, a badge of honour. It's saying something along the lines of 'I fought the claiming and survived, so I am the best of the best', blah blah blah. The mark of finally being considered a man and all that jazz.

[RawrCandy]

I'm really sorry for the lack of activity, ;___;
But yes, even though the nanobots idea is really appealing, the fact that it's still a sexual claiming might make it more difficult, even more so with the fact that not every sub is passive nor every dom active, but I'm just repeating what has been said.

I had an idea of making it more like the mythical red-thread, as when two persons are really compatible for surviving they just connect and get branded, but I desserted the idea because it was too complicated. D:

So yeah, I'm up for the branding idea, but have a question regarding fidelity. A dom only has one sub and a sub only has a dom, right? Are they able to be with others before they brand each other?

[Gaslight]

Yes ma'am, they can. Once a Dom and a Sub have claimed each other then they are expected to remain 'faithful' to one another, but if a Dom hasn't claimed a Sub yet then he can get it on with as many people as he wants. If a Sub hasn't been claimed then he can also make lurve with as many people as he wants.

Also, Doms can still get it on with other people once they've claimed a Sub. They're not supposed to, but it's viewed similarly to a man cheating on his wife. People will disapprove of it and that disapproval will make the Dom's life difficult, but he won't be punished in any way, per se.

But if a Sub cheats on a Dom then the Dom would be justified in breaking the claim or killing the Sub (depending on how severe the Sub's indiscretion was).

[RawrCandy]

Okie dokie, thanks for the explanation

Oh, by the way, I have updated my character. I hope that it's okay like this

Spoiler for Aleksei:

Name: Aleksei Drotenkov
Age: 20
Category: Submissive Male
Sexuality/Position: Not really defined (Pansexual) / Usually bottoms, but prefers to top

Back story: Aleksei Drotenkov is the son of Doctor Drotenkov, a famous doctor from the Metropolis. He's the oldest son of the family, consisting of five children. As a child he used to be really sick, his physique was not really astounding so he got ranked as a Submissive Male, even though his parents fought for him to be a healthy Dominate male. He brought shame to the family, for he was now categorized as a useless weak being, stigmatized by all the other families. His mother resents him, because her other children were born either female or submissive, so she thinks it was his fault. His father refuses to believe his son is weak, so he secretly taught him valuable lessons so he would not be useless at all.

Aleksei lived a wealthy and good life, externally, but deep inside he has turned twisted, suffering his parent's disappointment and believing he should not exist for he has brought shame to the family. Thus, his personality is really weird. Now that he is grown up, he looks like the average Submissive male. Meek outside, with a weak, slender frame and sickly pale skin, but deep inside is really sadistic and desires to control and out power everyone that tries to approach him, even though he is not really strong enough to do so. With deep, abnormal thoughts and plots, Aleksei was even looking forward to the Claiming, in order to try to upgrade his status as a General male, and will do anything in his hands to win, even though his physique isn't the best.